Topic: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

Evening guru's! Im back with results... I did what TwincamSam said and the result is 74wkw 131Nm. Somehow i was expecting a bit more.I flowed the head completely - port and polished, changed the injectors from pink to the green ones. Maybe Im just greedy or is this a bit low for the 16v?Was hoping for 80+. I have another question...the 20v bug bit me,Ive searched the net but cant find decent answers. What is needed if I want to swop my 16v with a 20v bt into my ae92?Surely it cant just be a drop and go? (apart from management and harness) Will my stock 16v gearbox fit,thought of maybe getting a 6spd but are there any modifications that i should do? Thanks again for the advice you guys gave me my baby pull quite leke nou and haved embarassed alot of BMW's and other "fast" 2L's hehehe!

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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

Hey bru not to be mean, but I have a 16v s3 motor, just with the std branch and 50mm exhaust I made 90wkw, ok I know the dyno could over read a little but ya, I think you should be making more ppower with all that mods

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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

ya I also starting to think somethings wrong,but it pulls quite strong. Also you gotta keep in mind that ur @ sea level right? And im in the highveld... tanx for the reply mate!

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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

Iv also tried to make power with a s3 16v motor flowed ported head, cams, verniers and management i managed 102wkw i then ended up going 20v, i also have a ae92 the engine is a straight swap the 16v gearbox works all ul need is to modify the wiring for management and some other small stuff and u good to go and believe me u wont regret it.

Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

Tanx man!! Luv dat IT on the BT it sound frikkin awesome!
you dont know perhaps if the 6spd box will work or must i change side shafts etc?

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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

the 6 spd box works but u will need the the 6 spd shifter and cables as well, id say go for the 5 spd 20v box its stronger than the 6 spd box.

Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

6 shooter will definitely work but also upgrade to the 210mm 20v clucth kit. I also say stay away from the RXi 6 shooyter box due to long term durability with hard driving.

What exactly was done to the cylinder head? Did you regrind the camshafts as well? Chip or Management?

We recently mapped by younger brothers Avante Twincam and managed to squeeze out 124kw.

This is the spec :

4AGE Twincam Series 3
Dave Repsold cylinder head ( Port, flow, 3 angle valve seats, 268 deg intake and exhaust reground cams)
BMC closed Carbon intake
57mm exhaust, 42mm headers ( Use TNT 4 into 1)

It is very easy to make nice power out of a S3 Twincam 16.......due to the fact that compression and camshaft duration can be bumped up nicely.

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Yoshimura 270 cams                         Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate
TODA valve Springs                          Built ZE 8.9 bottom end, ARP, FMIC
63mm Exhaust                                 Boost Cooler, Full Management

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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

Greetings TwincamSam, the head intake and exhaust were ported and the valve guides smoothed. Still running the stock series 1 ecu but someone told me its exactly the same as the s3.I do want to get management but that would be if I go 20v BT route. What do u suggest,spitronic, dicktator, gotech or mr turbo?I heard quite good reports for the spitronic management. About the cams still stock s3,I wanted to put my s1 cams in since its profile is 240 instead of s3 232 but the guy that dit the porting for me said the lift is less than the s3 cams. Will later do a split cam setup, 272 intake and 264 exhaust.Gonna use this 16v in my mini that in building. If I could my nice power(80-90kw) I'd rather keep the 16v in my 'rolla and put the 20v in the mini.

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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

OK so there lies your current problem....The car has not been setup optimallly for the increased air flow.

Dont worry about management for the TC16v...Fit a unichip and tune her. It will make a world of difference and works perfectly on the S1 ECU

A reground set of 268's with intake and exhaust verniers, tuned with the unichip (On your flowed head)......with the exhaust and intake done.....will make more power than stock BT 20v.

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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

You can also go 272 cams, crystal mod the ECU to allow higher rev limit........and then rev to 8500RPM with a strong high end power band.

Corolla RXi 20v Blacktop                    87 RSi 4AGE 16v "DBN Stock"- 282Wkw @ 1.8 bar
TRD 0.8mm Head Gasket                   Turbonetics 0.63 A/R T3/T4 turbocharger
Yoshimura 270 cams                         Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate
TODA valve Springs                          Built ZE 8.9 bottom end, ARP, FMIC
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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

Shweet! Thats awwesome news! Think I should get hold of some 272 billets and unichip.Thank you alot for your advice,greatly appreciate it! Ja this engine limit @ 7200 and sometimes 7400 very weird if you ask me! And does anyone know where is can get engine mountings for the 4age? Cause in witbank every spare shop make promises to order and its now almost 8 months!My mountings hang by grace lol!

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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

Contact FKN16v on this forum for mountings.....he has the Ae92 mountings in stock and can freight them to you.

272 billets, higher rev limit, and tuning will do wonders to that motor. Well done on the progress thus far and let us know if you need more assistance.   ../../extensions/custom_smilies_2/img1/wink

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Yoshimura 270 cams                         Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate
TODA valve Springs                          Built ZE 8.9 bottom end, ARP, FMIC
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Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

@twincamsam did url bump up the compression in that engine? n what internals did url use, specs of my s3: ported polished int n ex, 268 reground cams, 50mm roadmaster zorst with 42 4 into 1 branch and gotech proX management i managed 102wkw the car felt decent and def an improvement but after dropn in the 20v its much stronger now. Iv still got that s3 engine kept and thinkn of puttn it in my chisel rolla but iv got som ideas to improve on it chek ur pm.

Re: Dyno run on ae92 4age 16v s3

Shot thanks man! Will post results when Im done! Will rather take her to Pta to map her cuz these monkeys in witbank just screw up cars - LOL!

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